Comments on: Nietzsche and Marriage https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html (many) winters in vienna. theatre, dance, poetry. and some politics. Tue, 24 Dec 2019 08:45:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Ugly hunchback https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-423665 Tue, 24 Dec 2019 08:45:14 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-423665 “man of the times”

And you aren’t? What does that even mean? Nietzsche was a brilliant genius, which I, as a Christian, readily admit. Stylistically one of the greats among Germans, together with Luther, Goethe and Schopenhauer.

The Catholic Colombian reactionary Nicolás Gómez Dávila wrote (my translation from the German translation): “Nietzsche would be the only aristocratic resident of a deserted world. Only his option could face God’s resurrection without shame.”

And yes, STEM guys are often shallow; Feynman was extremely shallow.

Kurt: ugliness is nothing you choose, it chooses you. In times where women have way more options, guys who aren’t even average — not even in my pants I am: ridiculous four inches (r/smalldickproblems) — have lost and should simply endure existence. I am also a hunchback (besides being mentally ill as well), which is the definition of ugliness. Why would I pass this onto some poor soul?

And I did not hang myself ~10 years ago (survived, obviously) because I am ugly — not only, at least — but because I took my atheism to its logical conclusion. A world bereft of meaning — why would I endure this? Had I not become a Christian around two years ago, I would have tried to kill myself again.

As an atheist in my late teens/twenties, women weren’t even on my mind (I knew I was ugly back then too, of course: worthless genetic trash) — I thought that if I had to continue living, I had to be a genius. My heroes at that time were geniuses like Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Weininger but especially Schopenhauer.

However, not only did I lack their high education — I was too depressed starting to learn Latin and Greek — but I knew that I am only average. I had no academic success either, but dropped out of 9th grade, aged 15; then, due to laws and parental pressure, I finished two crash courses to complete 9th and 10th grade — but I was unable to handle going to a real school afterwards for three years, so at age 18, I dropped out after three days.

It is nonsense that beauty is subjective; it can’t be. While people may have types they like, beauty depends on objective criteria.

For example, I lost more than 50 kilos in less than one year — I always was the fatso in class — at age 18, but was still ugly and small-wienered, as well as mentally ill: a crazy person, basically. Extremely introverted and depressed.

I had and still have this need to end my life. I gained all the weight back after having been forcibly institutionalized and taking medication after my hanging attempt.

I lost some of it again after my conversion experience. I now drag through life and endure it, like the German Catholic poet and writer Reinhold Schneider, who survived a suicide at age 18, and endured his life until he collapsed on the streets at age 55, in Freiburg.

Why do I write this? Because I am tired of the know-it-alls who want to tell me that there are reasons for staying alive besides God’s existence; that life itself somehow can be justified even in God’s absence; that ugliness doesn’t exist, that being a mentally ill, fat hunchback with excess skin and a small four inch wiener who lives at the bottom of society — I am trash on all accounts — without any great talents is perfectly fine.

Implement at least eugenics, so that fat, ugly, hunchbacked, small-wienered and mentally ill people get sterilized, which would have spared me my awful existence.

Jeremiah 20:14-18, Job 3:3, Ecclesiastes 4:3, Philippians 1:21-23.

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By: alec https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-383422 Fri, 06 Oct 2017 11:02:34 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-383422 Maths, I just reread the article after years not looking at it. The only comparison I made to Nietzsche was that we were both men and men who like thinking women. With regret, I must inform you the one making a very stupid impression here is staring at you every time you confront a mirror. I’ll look into the Lou Salomé portrait.

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By: Maths https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-379727 Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:58:15 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-379727 Indeed this picture is NOT Lou Andreas Salomé . Did you ever read a book of Lou Andreas Salome? She was a phenomene herself with all the rights to be famous for herself. And how dare you compare yourself with Nietzsche? You make a very stupid impression here.

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By: eric https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-325296 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 00:53:38 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-325296 that is not Lou Salome, it is Eleonora Duse.

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By: Gitura https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-298297 Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:11:00 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-298297 Life is contradictory. While artists and thinkers believe marriage hinders their creativity because they’re free spirits, and hence Nietzsche view that marriage is often harmful and promotes the retrogression of man, another school of thought is that men in happy marriages are the most productive because the conducive environment helps them bring their A game. But one thing is for sure, friendship/conversation in marriage is better than sex. It’s more noble. And Pring, your English is quite good.

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By: Pring https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-258836 Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:36:57 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-258836 Lou Andreas Salomé is best known for her relationship with the poet Rainer Maria Rilke, whom she also did not marry :D. They had a lifetime friendship with an exchange of remarkable letters. Lou Salomé also was aquainted wit Freud and many other famous comtemporaries. She was married to a mister Andreas who later had children with their housekeeper. I assume Andreas had much more better and interesting things to do (she wrote many books) than sex. She was a feminist and an intellectual. Sorry for my poor english, I am dutch.

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By: Mariana https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-158622 Sun, 11 Jan 2015 11:12:25 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-158622 Alec wouldn’t you actually be bored with her objectivness and she mystified with your subjectivness? Like in a vice versa way?

I mean she’s the more square thinker because she’s the scientist and you are the more imaginative and artistic one, so therefore your subjective and she’s objective.

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By: alec https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-27501 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:52:18 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-27501 Nietzsche has more than a few questionable ideas. I’m still amazed at his academic vogue among nominally enlightened professors. The attraction of the aphorism in comparison to the impenetrable probably has a lot to do with it.

Or perhaps some of it has to do with the sound of his name, so close to nihilism yet so much more hopeful.

Don’t take the remark about scientists badly: she was probably as bored with my subjectivity as I was mystified by her objectivity.

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By: Chris https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-27455 Tue, 18 Feb 2014 02:10:15 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-27455 A lot of your article is way off-base.

It’s hard to take you seriously when Nietzsche is talking about shallow women (the “tedious” young wives) and you’re comparing them to an accomplished scientist. As a STEM sort of guy, it’s hard not to feel personally insulted by you.

There’s nothing nice for me to say about that. So I’ll let your imagination fill in the nasty details.

Then you started talking about double-standards when Nietzsche was saying that young lovers can’t be trusted to make important decisions about their lives because they’re irrationally besotted with puppy love. He made the comic suggestion that society ought not to honor such a contract for their own good.

Those things don’t remotely come near to touching one another.

Nietzsche makes a misogynistic statement about how women only see men as a way of getting babies. As much as I like Nietzsche, he was still a man of the times and has a few questionable ideas here-and-there.

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By: Kurt Reckling https://uncoy.com/2013/06/nietzsche-and-marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-18101 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:50:54 +0000 http://uncoy.com/?p=1109#comment-18101 Verdammt kerl! That was amazing, I was just investigating about depression, uglines, suicide, lack of sex and another things that drive men and women to suicide and nihilism, and I found this. I think if most people are able to be aware about such things, they woulnd’t give up so easely in life, especially in that part of the text about giving angel features to normal womena, and realizing that maybe a beautiful one could be a nightmare. Most of use tend to idealize the people whe are searching, and then, you got sensless suffering. It was a nice point mate, greetings from the old Prussia (Germany).

Kurt

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