Comments on: There are no second acts in American Lives: Marion Barry, Act XVII https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html (many) winters in vienna. theatre, dance, poetry. and some politics. Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Johnny Feron https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-1256 Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:17:11 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-1256 Of course,FitzJohn above gets it right, while it seems 99% of persons get it wrong, considering that it’s always quoted in the context of someone or another’s re-emergence on the scene after going into an eclipse. Fitzgerald did NOT mean there are no second chances in American life–but that American liveS tend not to have middle acts, when the fruits of our early labors can be appreciated, before going into the inevitable decline of old age. Cheers to FitzJohn for explaining the true sense and intention of FSF’s statement accurately and pithily!!! :)

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By: FitzJohn https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-510 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:57:33 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-510 Sorry folks, but Fitzgerald was writing at a time when the classic structure for a Broadway play was one of three acts. What he meant was that American lives tend to go from Act One to Act Three, from exposition straight to dénouement.

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By: alec https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-468 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:23:37 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-468 I like your interpretation Jeff.

My own interpretation of Fitzgerald is that America is a disposable culture and once you’ve made your big mistake there is scant way back. That doesn’t seem to be as true of contemporary America. What’s strange is there is little predicting who gets a second chance and who doesn’t, i.e. Gary Hart and John Edwards don’t. But John McCain does.

It seems that the forces of darkness get as many mistakes as they like. Those who would like to make the world a better place put one foot wrong and they are thrown out of public life forever.

How does that apply to Bill Clinton? Does it make him the exception or one of the forces of darkness?

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By: Jeff Bladt https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-454 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:55:41 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-454 I always understood Fitzgerald quote to mean that once the curtain drops, it does not rise again. In Schwarzenegger’s case, his curtain has never come down. Robinson misses this nuance completely. the point is, stretch your act as long as possible, never let the curtain drop. If anything, he offers an example in Schwarzenegger of someone acutely aware if this paradigm, and not anathema to it.

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By: Sean https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-261 Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:11:32 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-261 Nice one Regina, you blew the crap out of this thread ;)

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By: Alec https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-260 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:47:56 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-260 I think your reading of Fitzgerald is much better, Regina.

A continuum of life is much better.

With the start and stop careers and reinventing yourself, it is ever more so.

Thanks for your insight.

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By: samuelalito https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-259 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:07:51 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-259 You misunderstand Fitzgerald. He does not think that Americans don’t re-invent themselves (after all, he wrote Gatsby). What he means is that the American’s life, unilke the European’s, does not feature a culmination, does not come to fruition. Americans live many acts, but each one is a first act, ignoring everything that came before.

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By: REGINA GRANT https://uncoy.com/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html/comment-page-1#comment-258 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:54:37 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2006/01/there_are_no_se.html#comment-258 LIVED IN D.C. IN BARRY’S HEYDAY. LOVED HIM THEN,,,LOVE HIM NOW. NO WORST THAN THE OTHER CROOKS, PERVERTS,STUPID-ASSES THAT CURRENTLY RUN THINGS IN D.C. LONG LIVE BARRY!!!!!!!!!

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