Comments on: Une farouche beauté: Jewish collective suicide, round ?? https://uncoy.com/2004/12/une_farouche_be.html (many) winters in vienna. theatre, dance, poetry. and some politics. Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:44:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: Alec https://uncoy.com/2004/12/une_farouche_be.html/comment-page-1#comment-350 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:44:23 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/12/une_farouche_be.html#comment-350 Thanks Harry for the signpost to Lawrence of Cyberia. Incredibly detailed documentation and analysis of the Israel-Palestinian conflict. The photogallery there takes one’s breath away in the worst possible way.

The LGF site will not call for a pogrom. Basically Charles is running a settlers cheerleader section – it is hard-core militant Zionism there. On the other hand, the non-Jewish readers (more particularly the enormous red-neck contingent) at LGF are exactly the sort of folks who have participated in pogroms from the beginning of time.

Right now Charles has them whipped up against Palestinians in particular and Muslims in general, but the problem with leading a mob is that they can turn on their leaders at any moment.

Which as you point out, inevitably they will. At which point it will be up to you and I and Lawrence and Jacques Chirac to provide shelter from the seething bloodthirsty mob.

And so the wheel of history turns one more time.

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By: Harry https://uncoy.com/2004/12/une_farouche_be.html/comment-page-1#comment-349 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:48:35 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/12/une_farouche_be.html#comment-349 The Jewish neoconservatives are following a very dangerous policy, as are their Likudnik counterparts in Israel. Both are encouraging fundamentalists in their own countries and these fundamentalists ultimately have no use for them. This a long standing US policy. Fundamentalists are easily whipped into a murderous frenzy and serve as shock troops in maintaining undemocratic rule.

I also think focusing on the presence of many Jews amongst the neocons can lead to faulty conclusions. Militant Israel would be supportred even if US Jews had little or no influence. The goal of the US is to keep the Middle east just shy of being completely destabilized. This will backfire badly one day and reawaken the rabid judeophobia of the neocons nominal allies. It wouldn’t surpise me to find the LGF site calling for a pogrom when that happens. There is already some Jew baiting going on from extreme right religious leaders. They are blaming the “secular Jews of Hollywood”, once again, for moral decline and sexual perversion.

Zionism was a terrible solution to a longstanding problem. The idea of religious basis for citizenship opens the door to theocratic control of large sections of the government, with the predictable disastrous results. I don’t see how Israel can exist can exist as Jewish state, a democracy and continue the repression and slaughter of Palestinains without self-immolation. It is already tearing itself apart. The settlers are angling for a showdown with secular authorities.

I highly recommend the Lawrence of Cyberia weblog for more depth and insight.

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