Comments on: LGF and LGFers | trolls and lizards | brownshirts and nero’s mob | fate of ernst roehm https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html (many) winters in vienna. theatre, dance, poetry. and some politics. Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:57:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: French Riots - Steyn Stupidity | Level Heads | Rabid LFGers | uncoy.com | la vie viennoise https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-97147 Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:57:04 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-97147 […] at the moral cesspool of Little Green Footballs, the rhetoric is incredible. Here is a contribution from longtime LGFer […]

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By: #1AlecFan https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-383 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:25:25 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-383 “hubris. the classic sin. did in the greeks. in line to do in others for the Nth time.”

Alec, the lack of clarity in your writing could lead one to believe that you are looking forward to, if not advocating, some kind of deserved “holocaust” for certain “chosen people”. What would all your Jewish friends at the ballet think about this?

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By: alec https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-382 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 05:10:23 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-382 JAIH:

we were talking about historical context. at that point these questions become relevant when discussing a claimed 2000 year old homeland, while turfing out those who have been peacefully settled there for much of the intervening time.

in the meantime, i would suggest that we are on the classic lawyer’s tactic here – advance little, niggle much.

CLTA:

above applies here to you. singular.

except we add the gratuitous ad hominem attack. iced with irrelevance and false information.

in any case, if the pharisees blew it 2000 years ago – and based on existing historical records they didn’t – the NYT wasn’t going to miss the mark this time.

in these more worldly times, poor mel hasn’t had to perish to reap his heavenly reward.

but the best slings and arrows money could buy were expended to make his outrageous fortune.

hubris. the classic sin. did in the greeks. in line to do in others for the Nth time.

far better to live in peace and lend a hand to one’s fellow man.

no people are chosen. and when cut all men’s blood bleeds red.

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By: ReallyMeanItThisTime https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-381 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:56:57 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-381 2000 years ago? Do you think the Jews started with Mel Gibson or something?

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By: TheJewishAmericanIndianHitler https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-380 Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:29:07 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-380 “or 2000 years ago when a people – for the most part some people not necessarily with much ethnic relation to the current israelis – called the jews had sway over these lands.”

Oh I can’t resist. Why this preoccupation with “ethnic relation”? My God! You’re not talking about race are you!? Do you want to maintain the ethnic purity of the Middle East? That sounds a little strange coming from someone with ideas as progressive as your own. Who exactly are these people “called the jews” that you talk about? Alec, man you crack me up.


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By: CustersLastTemptationofAlec https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-379 Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:42:16 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-379 Alec, I think I’m going to stop arguing with you because frankly I’m starting to think that you just aren’t too smart. My original point had something to with the tendency for extremist ideologies from both sides to associate with rhetorical strategies that I personally find to be knee-jerk and counter productive to the goal of establishing meaningful discourse on this subject that we both seem to feel so passionate about.

“Gradual crucifixion”!!! BTW, your “history” left out certain events and dynamics…things that don’t suit your idea of Palestinians as helpless “martyrs” (tee-hee)…but like I said, I quit.

See you at shul! Maybe we can discuss why those rascally Jews are responsible for the mess in Baghdad. And cheer up! Whenever you feel angry, just remember your trust fund.

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By: alec https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-378 Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:56:02 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-378 which historical context do we want to talk about? the last forty years – after the israelis had already taken the palestinians home from them. or the context of the twenties and thirties while the zionists were gradually expropriating and preparing to chase out the palestinians? or the last 500 while the palestinians were living quietly on their small territory as an appendage to various empires. or 2000 years ago when a people – for the most part some people not necessarily with much ethnic relation to the current israelis – called the jews had sway over these lands.

or some time in between.

tell me – just what historical context suits you? tell me just what historical context justifies the gradual crucifixion of the palestinian people now?

for that matter, what historical context justifies americans in baghdad?

as i have asked you three times now…

what is your point?

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By: JewishAmericanIndian https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-377 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:41:40 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-377 I have already mentioned that you missed my point:

“Both are rhetorical crutches used by self-righteous bigots with little sense of historical context.”

That is my point. If you want to argue against that point, here let me repeat my point again:

“Both are rhetorical crutches used by self-righteous bigots with little sense of historical context.”

Nowhere did I use verbal “sticks and stones” to insult you at a personal level.

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By: alec https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-376 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:32:21 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-376 sticks and stones. and what is your point exactly?

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By: GoBacktoAustralia https://uncoy.com/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html/comment-page-1#comment-375 Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:53:35 +0000 http://uncoy.org/2004/04/lgf_and_lgfers_.html#comment-375 “i’m sorry that the fate of rachel corrie – whose untimely demise was symbolic of the absence of a desire for peace on the part of the israeli estabilishment – is of no interest to you.

i’m sure comments like “nuke baghdad” leave you indifferent as well.”

No, I think you miss my point: neither corrie’s death nor the idea of nuking baghdad are very useful to understanding the Israel-Palestine conflict. Both are rhetorical crutches used by self-righteous bigots with little sense of historical context. However, if you are simply looking for a “symbol” may I suggest a swastika.

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